Dylan Mulvaney is the new face of OLAY WOMEN!

May 2024 · 42 minute read

Go gurl, get yo money. We all have skin so why can’t she be the spokeswoman for Oil of Olay? Skin is for everyone.

“People always ask me how I have such beautiful flawless girly skin and I always tell them my secret is🎵Olay! Olay! Olay! Olay! Everyday! Olay! Olay! Olay! Olay!🎶 Olay should be in every girl’s daily skin routine!”

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by Anonymousreply 195April 19, 2023 6:01 PM

Here is the full ad. Very catchy. You’ll catch yourself singing this every day.

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by Anonymousreply 1April 11, 2023 3:26 AM

Is he blackmailing someone?

by Anonymousreply 2April 11, 2023 3:45 AM

The greatest career move in history.

This bitch has made so much money by just performatively switching genders.

by Anonymousreply 3April 11, 2023 3:49 AM

One of the most punchable faces today. I don't understand why all these companies are promoting this ugly fuck.

by Anonymousreply 4April 11, 2023 3:50 AM

Just to annoy you, R4. I approve!

by Anonymousreply 5April 11, 2023 3:52 AM

R4, You don’t understand maybe because you’re a Nazi TERF? The only face people should punch is your ugly Republican one. 👊🏻

by Anonymousreply 7April 11, 2023 3:54 AM

Who is the audience for him to be promoting Bud Light, Olay and other products? There really aren’t all that many transgendered people for this guy to be getting national product contracts.

by Anonymousreply 8April 11, 2023 3:56 AM

R7 Go dilate mental cuntless wonder.

by Anonymousreply 9April 11, 2023 3:56 AM

He’s a faker using transitioning as a way to make millions and dimbasses are buying it cause he’s a theatre kid with a former career in Broadway. He refused to take hormones or cut his cock off. I hate this opportunistic cunt.

by Anonymousreply 10April 11, 2023 3:56 AM

Well she has no boobs for spots bras, or a vagina for tampons, but she does have skin, so it's the one that make more sense.

by Anonymousreply 11April 11, 2023 3:57 AM

R8

Senior VPs of marketing at places like Anhauser Busch, Olay and Nike are obsessed with him. They think he brings something fresh to their stodgy brands and making him the face of their brands, even if only temporarily, will be revolutionary and elicit massive praise. They think TikTok is the main forum of communication these days. They all seemingly have no idea that he is polarizing because they only read and digest left-wing news which fawn over people like Mulvaney. It's total delusion.

by Anonymousreply 12April 11, 2023 4:04 AM

Looks mentally unstable. I say this out of concern, why are we not confronting mental health piece of all this publicly?

by Anonymousreply 13April 11, 2023 4:04 AM

R7 You don't have to be a terf or a republican to find Dylan Mulvaney annoying and ugly.

by Anonymousreply 14April 11, 2023 4:05 AM

I'm most shocked by this 26-year-old man's eye wrinkles, esp. at the end!

I'm not shaming ordinary people with bad skin who don't have means to take care.

In addition to being a grandson of a billionaire, he used to be a failed actor (vanity makes actors take care of their appearance?) + twink (tend to also take care of their appearance?)

by Anonymousreply 15April 11, 2023 4:06 AM

his skin is definitely something that I would buy a product to look as good as

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by Anonymousreply 16April 11, 2023 4:07 AM

I had no problem with trans people until this dude came along. He honestly isn't helping the country embrace trans people.

by Anonymousreply 17April 11, 2023 4:09 AM

That gaping maw in the first pic is very Rosie in riding the bus with my sister.

by Anonymousreply 18April 11, 2023 4:09 AM

Jesus Christ, is that alcohol or drugs? I’m being serious, I’m seeing in my 30s my face becoming this way and I do drink a bit.

by Anonymousreply 19April 11, 2023 4:09 AM

R17 Exactly. Everyone has to be welcome, but attention seeking is not a good trait. For any human.

by Anonymousreply 20April 11, 2023 4:10 AM

[quote]I had no problem with trans people until this dude came along.

Oh, so you have a problem with trans people? Gotcha, ya Nazi TERF ciscunt. Leave this site immediately!

by Anonymousreply 21April 11, 2023 4:14 AM

is she the sole brand ambassador for okay women skincare? No. N anyone who cares about their skin use the women skincare bcoz they r more technologically advanced

by Anonymousreply 22April 11, 2023 4:14 AM

Glad I use E.L.F skincare products.

by Anonymousreply 23April 11, 2023 4:15 AM

Women need to "elevate their voices" but closing their purses. When Gilette put out that awful, lecturing "do better" toxic masculinity commercial to men during the Super Bowl/#metoo movement in. 2019, where all the white men were awful and the black men were heros, their stocks plummeted. Men voted with their wallets. Corporations give absolutely zero fucks what they are as long as they sell product. I had to really search YouTube just to find the full commercial. Gilette pulled that shit quickly.

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by Anonymousreply 25April 11, 2023 4:20 AM

[quote] Everyone has to be welcome, but attention seeking is not a good trait. For any human.

especially one so ugly.

by Anonymousreply 26April 11, 2023 4:26 AM

R26 Don’t twist my words, you piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 27April 11, 2023 4:29 AM

Does she really have no tits and a penis? I could see her advertising anything, but advertising a bra when you aren't taking hormones and have a male chest is weird. It's like an FTM with a pussy being the spokesperson for Trojan Magnums. I bet Lia Thomas might actually have the goods to sell Magnums. Swimmers always have big cocks.

by Anonymousreply 28April 11, 2023 4:30 AM

R28 Good gosh, I always guessed Michael Phelps was a 9x6, he totally looks the part.

by Anonymousreply 29April 11, 2023 4:31 AM

r16 Fool has more debris on his face than a back alley in a Calcutta red light district.

by Anonymousreply 30April 11, 2023 4:42 AM

R30 Some Duncan Hines frosting mixed with1 tsp of espresso powder really brings out the bronze.

by Anonymousreply 31April 11, 2023 4:47 AM

He brags about being a “real women have cocks and balls DEAL WITH IT” um no F***ing stupid fake cunt real women have no cocks and balls. That means bio and trans women. Same the other way. There’s two genders. If someone feels inside they’re the other gender , they take the necessary difficult but important steps to become their proper gender. They transition into the gender they deem in their soul is who they are. If Dylan claims to be “female” , then ‘she’ would be on hormones and couldn’t wait to cut the cock off. HE has a billionaire grandpa, millions himself from TikTok yet somehow can’t seem to find the money or time to truly transition ? It’s a load of bullshit and he knows it! There’s so many truly amazing trans people who would’ve repped these brands proud. They find the single most opportunistic, being annoying GENDER FAKER instead? Fuck this charade. Cut the cock off, grow a pair of tits for those Nike sports bras and then you’ll truly be the woman you claim you are.

by Anonymousreply 32April 11, 2023 4:48 AM

It’s nice to see Ben Shapiro being chipper for once

by Anonymousreply 33April 11, 2023 4:49 AM

R33 Is he the one who doesn’t know pussies squirt?

by Anonymousreply 34April 11, 2023 4:55 AM

Wherever you stand on the trans issue this person is ugly and not charming. They have no business advertising anything.

by Anonymousreply 36April 11, 2023 4:59 AM

I guess some of the "after" pics following the facial feminization work were heavily filtered, as he is looking absolutely ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 38April 11, 2023 5:02 AM

I think the issue is all these companies and media outlets shut off comments so they don’t realize how much everyone hates this. But I watched this and I’m not sure Olay sponsored him as much as he made a video about them and they haven’t said anything.

by Anonymousreply 39April 11, 2023 5:09 AM

Those bumps look like a /really/ bad case of razor burn like he shaves multiple times a day and then slathers make up all over it which is probably clogging everything.

by Anonymousreply 40April 11, 2023 5:21 AM

Does anyone else think that this guy's a psyop?

by Anonymousreply 41April 11, 2023 5:22 AM

Remember when she was begging Patagonia to sponsor her? Look at her now.

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by Anonymousreply 42April 11, 2023 5:24 AM

R41 I kind of do. But I’m not sure what the goal is. Is it pro trans or anti trans. If it is anti trans it may be brilliant. If it’s pro trans it is failing.

by Anonymousreply 43April 11, 2023 6:13 AM

As a liberal Democrat I am ashamed of this thing and this teans crap.

by Anonymousreply 44April 11, 2023 6:18 AM

Reminds me of Andrew Garfield pre transition.

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by Anonymousreply 45April 11, 2023 12:37 PM

Can't wait for the endorsements to dry up, his meth and crack habit to get out of control and him degrading himself (further) by livestreaming fisting porn on Chaturbate.

by Anonymousreply 46April 11, 2023 12:47 PM

Something I found out in the middle of one of the other obsessive troll threads about this person is that they are NOT "the face of" ANY product at all.

They're one of a bunch of TikTok and Instagram influencers that brands partner with, and these influencers make a video or two about the product in question.

The way you cunt trolls were going on about it the other day, you made it sound like Nike was no longer making clothes for women, only for trans women now, and they had canceled every single one of their ad buys EXCEPT for ads with Mulvaney in them.

by Anonymousreply 47April 11, 2023 12:50 PM

Is this the golden girls reboot?

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by Anonymousreply 48April 11, 2023 12:50 PM

Old hag Jeffrey is going to murder Dylan for stealing his spotlight!

by Anonymousreply 49April 11, 2023 12:52 PM

[quote] When Gilette put out that awful, lecturing "do better" toxic masculinity commercial to men during the Super Bowl/#metoo movement in. 2019, where all the white men were awful and the black men were heros, their stocks plummeted.

There is no such thing as stock in Gillette. They're owned by Procter and Gamble, and P&G shows no such plummet in 2019.

You just like to tell stories, I guess.

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by Anonymousreply 50April 11, 2023 1:06 PM

They are trying to drive us all insane.

by Anonymousreply 51April 11, 2023 1:28 PM

She’s one person. You can watch her or not. Let the hate dissolve; nothing good comes from calling her ugly, she is not ugly, she did nothing to hurt anyone.

To the person who is using an anti-female slur to call out trolls, though, I call you out on your own hate speech. “Cunt” is a misogynist slur. You could have called someone a troll without saying “cunt troll”. And the person talking about punching probably isn’t even female, which makes your choice of misogynist language even more suspect.

by Anonymousreply 52April 11, 2023 7:25 PM

Just like when the Oly/Oli guy (or whatever he is or was called) went full Korean, I'm starting to like Dylan.

I LOVE performance art. Any performance artist who can make a name and make money doing it? Good for them.

Sucks for women losing out on gigs, of course. But art is more bigger than gender. Or sex. Or whatever it's all called now.

by Anonymousreply 53April 11, 2023 8:05 PM

R52 We don't need no cunting hall monitor here, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 54April 11, 2023 8:43 PM

He gives me "It puts the lotion on its skin" vibes.

by Anonymousreply 55April 11, 2023 8:48 PM

Here's what I think might be going on.

As with a lot of these little micro-influencer media whores, the community manager teams working on a brand (a subset of social media, a subset of digital, a subset of brand engagement, a subset of the marketing department) send little samples and suggestions 'you're so special' packages to people like Dylan, who then, in their narcissistic frenzy, actually think that he (I'm going to misgender because this larping cosplay doesn't deserve recognition) has been annointed official spokesmodel of the Brand.

Dylan goes online pretending they are Lebron James for Nike when he is really mini-influencer Z-minus, but because anything he posts goes toxically viral, Dylan's delusions of grandeur form a shit-vortex with the Twitterhive's delusions of perceived oppression and outrage.

The senior marketing directors, whose junior line employee or agency just sent a basic promo pack out, have no idea why this shitshow has visited them, but they can't fire Dylan or shut him down, or the GLAAD/HRC/DEI/ESG brigade descends on the company, so they try to ride it out and hope Dylan will get tired/distracted, but Dylan keeps going because attention whoring is working so w/ell and now he's hired CAA to promote him even more.

I just don't see how this ends yet. I can't imagine Dylan becoming America's sweetheart...like any Monet, the closer you get the more irritatingly ugly it becomes. I imagine at some point someone calls CAA and/or the family and says, "Stop" with some balls-in-a-vise leverage.

by Anonymousreply 56April 11, 2023 9:07 PM

Psycho eyes, rictus grin, tweaking.

Give it five years and this guy will be a born-again Christian. HE'LL be complaining HE was mentally ill at the time of this trans phenomena and was exploited by heartless companies.

by Anonymousreply 57April 11, 2023 9:38 PM

Nah, R57. He'll just take off his costume and go back to being a gay man. He'll say things like, "You know, I'm so glad I explored my gender. I really feel it's made me more sensitive to the needs of women and other marginalized people." And women will pick through the wreckage he leaves behind.

by Anonymousreply 58April 11, 2023 9:48 PM

Both OPs are really reaching to say this person is “the FACE of…”

It’s a fucking TikTok ad. Call me when he’s got multi page spreads in magazines or televised ad campaigns. People like the OPs actually draw far more attention to this guy than he would otherwise receive if they didn’t lose their shit every time they intentionally seek him out.

by Anonymousreply 59April 11, 2023 10:13 PM

I don't understand why Rachel Dolezal got so much shit but this creature gets ad deals.

by Anonymousreply 60April 11, 2023 10:17 PM

R60 Because she is a woman. The tranny shit is all male lead. Jesus, when did you last hear from a trans man?

by Anonymousreply 61April 11, 2023 10:21 PM

R54, a slur is a slur, whether racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic, and the person who uses one is a bigot and a bully. You do not have the ethical high ground when you are tearing other people down with hate speech, and you yourself are behaving like a troll.

by Anonymousreply 62April 11, 2023 10:41 PM

"Make me look like CNN's 'It Girl' Kaitlan Collins," Dylan said to his surgery 'team.'

by Anonymousreply 63April 11, 2023 10:55 PM

R63 So they punched him in the face, right?

by Anonymousreply 64April 11, 2023 10:57 PM

Day 379 of being a girl, and I upstaged my shero Farrah Abraham (James Deen, YAAAASSSS!!!!) on the red carpet! Go me!! Girl power!!!

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by Anonymousreply 65April 11, 2023 11:07 PM

R62 Twansphobia? Fuck off with your made up words cunt.

by Anonymousreply 66April 11, 2023 11:14 PM

Lots and lots of people crave attention in this world and with the advent of social media, lots more are getting it. Remember 'Likes' on Facebook? Then Followers. Then Views.

If you can't stand THIS particular person, why the f would you give it the attention it craves? If more and more people would just ignore it, it will eventually go away.

But no. Feed the FIRE?? Get more FIRE!!

by Anonymousreply 67April 11, 2023 11:20 PM

This may just be a TikTok ad. I researched the Tampax uproar and found out P&G doe not have a contract with Mulvaney. Although he was promoting the brand on his channel (is that what they're called?) This may be his way of trying to weasel a contract out of the company as both Tampax and Olay are P&G products.

by Anonymousreply 68April 11, 2023 11:28 PM

How many dicks can Dylan take in that cavernous mouth of his at one time?

by Anonymousreply 69April 11, 2023 11:29 PM

No, it’s not just her own video. It’s Olay’s official ad. Their official account posted this version with Dylan and other women using Olay.

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by Anonymousreply 70April 11, 2023 11:39 PM

At this point, this is the left equivalent to the stupid shit the conservatives do just to "own the liberals ". Make no fucking sense, but because they are pissing off people, they think they are "winning".

by Anonymousreply 71April 11, 2023 11:40 PM

This is incredibly stupid on behalf of any of these brands, maybe in another decade or two, but the largest buying demographic is going to be turned off by these companies, their brand integrity will sustain serious damage by this shortsighted move.

The time of the 'influencer' should've died with the fyre festival flop, this is how 1.00 Shave Club beats out Gillettes sales numbers. Other, newer brands will be given opportunities to expand their markets to otherwise would've been 'loyal' customers to established brands, killing themselves with stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 72April 11, 2023 11:42 PM

I dont like him,because he has a face like a trans Corey Feldman.

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by Anonymousreply 73April 11, 2023 11:51 PM

[quote] They transition into the gender they deem in their soul is who they are.

Yeah, because that makes perfect sense.

by Anonymousreply 74April 12, 2023 12:16 AM

Howard knows where Kid Rock can shove that shot-up beer can.

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by Anonymousreply 75April 12, 2023 2:42 AM

Why are we posting tweets from Oli?

by Anonymousreply 77April 12, 2023 4:03 AM

r16 He is NOT ready for the close-up.

by Anonymousreply 78April 12, 2023 6:02 AM

R75 in a sane world, people would consider both Dylan and Kid Rock to be crazy.

by Anonymousreply 79April 12, 2023 6:05 AM

R79 But Dylan is making much more money

by Anonymousreply 80April 12, 2023 6:19 AM

I can’t believe how annoyingly awful this person is.

by Anonymousreply 81April 12, 2023 6:27 AM

Have people lost their minds? Who thinks women will look at this face and tell themselves, I need to get me some of that. product.

by Anonymousreply 82April 12, 2023 6:34 AM

It’s not for women. Not just women have skin, you know. It’s for men, queers, trans, and non-binders too.

by Anonymousreply 83April 12, 2023 6:36 AM

It’s so gimmicky. Like there aren’t any other trans person to give an opportunity except this?

by Anonymousreply 84April 12, 2023 6:41 AM

Exactly. Why is she getting all these gigs! It’s ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 85April 12, 2023 6:45 AM

Male and female skin is different, Bozo R83.

Just for starters

Thicker Skin

In particular, the deeper layer of male skin called the dermis is about 20% thicker than a woman's dermis. It varies from person to person but the general percentage stays the same. This is why men and women get wrinkles in different ways. Men tend to have fewer superficial fine lines than women.

More info at link

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by Anonymousreply 86April 12, 2023 6:53 AM

When you look up Insufferable in the dictionary that's who you'll find in big bold print. Enough already! The fact that they also scream ADHD theatre kid annoys me to no end.

by Anonymousreply 87April 12, 2023 6:55 AM

R16 Lady Elaine Fairchilde's doppelganger

by Anonymousreply 88April 12, 2023 7:01 AM

[quote]“Cunt” is a misogynist slur. You could have called someone a troll without saying “cunt troll”.

First time here, is it? I'd offer to take your coat but I really think you'd be more comfortable somewhere else.

You cunt.

by Anonymousreply 89April 12, 2023 7:20 AM

R89, if you want to continue outing yourself as a far right troll with bigoted hate speech, go right ahead. Your hate speech marks you as who you are, a bigot. Transphobia is not acceptable and misogyny is not acceptable. Threatening and degrading other people is not acceptable. You used hate speech and threatened to punch me for no reason. You are a bigot and a troll.

by Anonymousreply 90April 12, 2023 1:37 PM

I have no idea who this creature is but I'm unsure as to why advertisers believe using a trans person to promote products to women is a good idea?

by Anonymousreply 92April 12, 2023 2:00 PM

Too bad John Epperson's Lypsinka isn't 30 and available. That was an amusing drag act. Dylan is awful.

by Anonymousreply 93April 12, 2023 2:44 PM

It’s kind of ironic. There are quite good looking trans women that could push beauty products if these companies are so hell-bent on jumping on the trans trend. Hell, there’s a trans woman on TikTok who is a beauty influencer and she’s great looking and actually likable. Unlike this Dylan loser.

by Anonymousreply 94April 12, 2023 3:48 PM

Exactly, if you wanna get ESG points, at least choose wisely and don't antagonize your core customer.

by Anonymousreply 95April 12, 2023 4:11 PM

That’s why it’s gimmicky and mocking of the trans community. They picked someone that in no way passes as a biological woman. Dylan was ugly as a man and even with tons of surgery still looks like an ugly man now dressed as a woman. Would they hire a more believable trans woman? Doubtful. They want to stir up controversy.

by Anonymousreply 96April 12, 2023 4:32 PM

I'm trying to decide if this is better or worse than choosing Ellen as the face of Cover Girl.

by Anonymousreply 97April 12, 2023 4:55 PM

How big is their shenis? I'm sure it looks larger now that they have starved themselves down to skeletal.

by Anonymousreply 98April 12, 2023 5:06 PM

Does anyone have their old Grinder dick pics? Morbidly curious.

by Anonymousreply 100April 12, 2023 5:07 PM

Biden should award her Mother of the Year Award 2023!!!

by Anonymousreply 101April 12, 2023 5:46 PM

[quote] They picked someone that in no way passes as a biological woman

To me it’s less about that. Some trans women will pass easily, some maybe not. It’s more about the attitude of the person. A hostile mocking caricature of a trans woman creates controversy, while your average trans woman is just living her life. Some trans women are outspoken and political, but still, it’s without that hostility directed against biologically born women. The rest are just troubled cos players.

by Anonymousreply 102April 12, 2023 5:50 PM

Next up: ROXIE HART IN CHICAGO!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 103April 12, 2023 5:55 PM

"I'm trying to decide if this is better or worse than choosing Ellen as the face of Cover Girl."

Ellen is clearly female, and that campaign was undeniably a great success for years on end, so I'm gonna go with "worse".

by Anonymousreply 104April 12, 2023 6:00 PM

[quote]You’ll catch yourself singing this every day.

Not if I never listen to it.

by Anonymousreply 105April 12, 2023 6:05 PM

Our Chloe does it better.

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by Anonymousreply 106April 12, 2023 7:25 PM

R104, I had no idea it was a success. You're right though, this is a lot worse. Especially based on the close-up shot that someone posted above. Horrific! Looks like the black swan.

by Anonymousreply 107April 12, 2023 8:20 PM

Trans ideology is homophobia, r90.

Getting a man like Dylan Mulvaney to advertise products to women is the epitome of misogyny. And only women have cunts. Dylan doesn't have one, because he isn't a woman.

by Anonymousreply 108April 12, 2023 8:36 PM

That thing is so ugly. Why are they so famous?

by Anonymousreply 109April 12, 2023 8:40 PM

Marketing departments are all run by hyper woke white women. Why is any of this a surprise for some of you?

by Anonymousreply 110April 12, 2023 8:47 PM

R108, if Dylan wants to identify as a woman she can. She’s not hurting anyone. She’s one of many influencers, while many others are cis women. You can respect her identity and yet still respect the right of women to not be labeled by a stereotype. Those are not mutually exclusive things. You can avoid misogyny, transphobia and homophobia just by trying to respect people. Things don’t have to be literally objectively true to be accepted and protected by law - that’s why there’s freedom of religion. So we can also respect identity and protect it under law without defining female with a stereotype. As a woman, I really dislike the word “cunt” and I would never use it to describe my own body. I want to protect the right of women not to be defined by a stereotype AND ALSO protect trans people from harassment. Both.

by Anonymousreply 111April 12, 2023 9:26 PM

I don't respect anyone who pretends to be someone they can never be and expect others to go along with it. And men like Dylan do hurt people. It's incredibly insulting that that a man can act like the worst 1950s stereotype of a woman (sorry, "girl") and get slobbered with praise for it. You're either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant if you don't see the harm he and the trans movement is causing, R111.

by Anonymousreply 112April 12, 2023 9:32 PM

R11 Fuck, are you lost? Fuck off back to Mumsnet and bore the other cunts there.

by Anonymousreply 113April 12, 2023 9:40 PM

"Things don’t have to be literally objectively true to be accepted and protected by law - that’s why there’s freedom of religion."

Religious people, in this country, do NOT have the "freedom" to force OTHERS to believe their religions and parrot their mantras. Nor should trans extremists.

by Anonymousreply 114April 12, 2023 9:52 PM

R112, Dylan is not causing harm. People who end up using hate speech against women cause harm but Dylan never did that. And talking about the trans movement causing harm could lead to hate crimes against innocent people.

The only source of harm in the entire thing is that the psychological establishment chose to define the fact of being female with a stereotype. It was never appropriate to do that, or necessary to support the rights and dignity of people who identify as trans.

Trans people’s self identity is valid but should not impose a stereotype on women. They have a right to human dignity and acceptance too.

by Anonymousreply 115April 12, 2023 9:54 PM

He thinks being a woman is acting as a sort of deliriously-happy dingbat.

by Anonymousreply 116April 12, 2023 9:57 PM

R115 Trans peoples' self identity is worthless fantasy. And nobody has to indulge the cuntless bores.

by Anonymousreply 117April 12, 2023 9:59 PM

R115: "The only source of harm in the entire thing is that the psychological establishment chose to define the fact of being female with a stereotype."

Please explain to us what else it could possibly be for males? Name ONE thing that differentiates trans-identified males from other males that is NOT a stereotype.

by Anonymousreply 118April 12, 2023 10:01 PM

[quote] Trans people’s self identity is valid but should not impose a stereotype on women. They have a right to human dignity and acceptance too.

And trans should not impose their delusions on the other 99.9% of the world, and force them to call themselves "CIS" to make them feel better, or "birthing people" etc.

by Anonymousreply 119April 13, 2023 12:50 AM

Once I saw “her” CAA agent listed on “her” Twitter bio, it all made sense. “She’s” a failed actor who found a gimmick.

by Anonymousreply 120April 13, 2023 1:16 AM

He's not only obnoxious he's also ugly. Why would women want to buy anything he's selling?

by Anonymousreply 121April 13, 2023 1:19 AM

Dylan isn't going anywhere for now. The marketing folks who pushed for them aren't going anywhere. Bud and Nike will stand by them and not react. Bud is already losing money People who are offended will boycott. Others won't care. Eventually Dylan will burnout and fade away. Happens all the time.

by Anonymousreply 122April 13, 2023 1:29 AM

I bet some of these companies wouldn't mind if dirt was dug up on Dylan. Then they could drop him without being seen as "transphobic".

by Anonymousreply 123April 13, 2023 1:35 AM

His shtick seems to be bits and bobs borrowed from New York drag queens past. It's impressive because most were way before his time. Ok if he is now a woman, then she is one of the women who wants to be a gay drag queen. Wouldn't it have been easier to skip the trans part and just be a gay drag queen? Because that is what she is.

by Anonymousreply 124April 13, 2023 1:52 AM

As mentioned above, I'm getting a bit of Lypsinka (the exaggerated gesturing), a dash of Linda Simpson, and a huge dollop of Brini Maxwell. I'm sure there are others, but I left NYC ages ago.

by Anonymousreply 125April 13, 2023 1:58 AM

He’s resembling Debra Messing there.

by Anonymousreply 126April 13, 2023 1:59 AM

[quote] His shtick seems to be bits and bobs borrowed from New York drag queens past.

Where? Are you crazy?

by Anonymousreply 127April 13, 2023 1:59 AM

Here’s the Bud Light lady.

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by Anonymousreply 129April 13, 2023 2:01 AM

He doesn’t even have tits.

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by Anonymousreply 130April 13, 2023 2:02 AM

His womanface act should have stayed in the bar.

by Anonymousreply 131April 13, 2023 2:04 AM

[quote] [R112], Dylan is not causing harm. People who end up using hate speech against women cause harm but Dylan never did that. And talking about the trans movement causing harm could lead to hate crimes against innocent people.

Not the poster you are responding to. Yet, honestly, R155, find this to be obtuse. Certainly Dylan is not using hate speech and his “positivity” (even if toxic?) has been noted. His desire for acceptance is part of the human story, and one can hardly criticize someone for this.

However damage can be much more subtle and insidious than overt hate speech. Dylan’s efforts to be publicly front and center - again- are not unusual. What IS unusual is the space that he occupies at the EXPENSE of others.

Let’s take his Nike ads, for example. In his ads, he flounces around advertising women’s sportswear including a sports bra. Women -that is REAL women- have had issues with the company of Nike and their sportswear as their bras are often NOT supportive to the varieties of breast tissue. (No pun intended.) Nike has not supported REAL women athletes in the past when they became pregnant. Yet now suddenly they “support” someone with little - if any - mammary glands? Claiming to be “inclusive”; yet they haven’t been inclusive in regards to prior issues involving women, breasts and pregnancy.

In an era when REAL women’s rights are being eroded in regards to their body autonomy regarding menstruation, pregnancy, sex-education and abortion; it is the height of hypocrisy for someone who DOES NOT have an XX phenotype and has only briefly (?one year), allied themself with the female gender to publicly carpet bomb the populace with their “journey” of what it means to be feminine.

Whilst I am all for individuals expressing their true selves, the capitalistic manner in which Dylan Mulvaney has chosen to do so comes off as offensive, exploitative, demeaning, superficial and saccharine to many.

by Anonymousreply 132April 13, 2023 2:24 AM

If Dylan is so committed to merching, why not have the NRA sign him up as their spokesperson?

Would we see a decline in gun -and hence, gun violence death - popularity?!

by Anonymousreply 133April 13, 2023 2:37 AM

Tranny get your gun!

I think trans are a natural ally of the NRA.

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by Anonymousreply 134April 13, 2023 2:40 AM

By the end of that Olay ad, I expected Dylan to go full Norman Bates and whip out a butcher knife! Creepy, not charming.

by Anonymousreply 135April 13, 2023 2:48 AM

"He right to live his identity in his womanface, cosplaying as a real woman is not causing harm blah blah" (robotic repetition all over) = 'A white man's right to live his identity in his blackface, cosplaying as a real black man or woman is not causing harm blah blah'

Then will come their automatic "it's not the same blah blah" which is pure bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 136April 13, 2023 2:52 AM

R136, correct. It's not for an outside person to decide if a person is harmed.

If I put on blackface and sing "Mammy," who's it harming? It's just makeup. It's just a stupid song. But if a black person sees it and says it's hurtful and harmful, I need to accept that as true, at least for them. It's not for me to make that decision and say their feelings are invalid.

Why might blackface and minstrel song be harmful? It's an aggressive reminder of the abuse black people have had to endure through the centuries, being mocked and having their identity undermined even as they had to live as second-class citizens in their own country.

Why might womanface and men being paid to promote bras and tampons be harmful? It's an aggressive reminder of the abuse women have had to endure through the centuries, being mocked and having their identity undermined even as they had to live as second-class citizens in their own country.

Like black people, women were once nothing but chattel. Reminder: Black men got the right to vote in 1865. Women got the right to vote in 1920.

And mocking people using exaggerated stereotypes is always hostile and aggressive. It's done with hate, not love.

by Anonymousreply 137April 13, 2023 3:06 AM

Is this a joke. This isn't a real ad. It's some Youtube made one. Op is trolling

by Anonymousreply 138April 17, 2023 2:24 PM

Couldn't any of the companies find an attractive trans person to sell their product? I feel like boycotting, not because he's trans, but because he's so damned ugly. Seeing this person make manic faces with that square mouth and little teeth is anger inducing.

by Anonymousreply 139April 17, 2023 5:04 PM

R138 is 10 years behind on corporate promotion through social media.

by Anonymousreply 140April 17, 2023 5:16 PM

R139 Just imagine the faces he makes while getting fucked.

by Anonymousreply 141April 17, 2023 5:33 PM

He really is repellent and repugnant as a spokesperson.

by Anonymousreply 142April 17, 2023 6:28 PM

“NZ Won’t Let Women Speak women have already proven they can't handle anything, why should speaking be any different? It's time to put these sex differences back in their proper place and stop playing to frau delusions“

Dylan Mulvaney is just fine, and she’s not the problem. The problem is that misogynist trolls who actually HATE all biological women and support FAR RIGHT anti female hate speech are coming trying to play champions of LGBT rights. The person who called me a cunt is posting bigoted anti female hate speech and actually hates women, and is actually posting hate speech, which as women we have a right to stand up against as much as LGBT against homophobia, racial minorities against racism, trans against transphobia, etc. That is not Dylan Mulvaney, who identifies as female, saying that. Notice the difference? Absolutely no hate speech from Dylan Mulvaney.

by Anonymousreply 143April 17, 2023 7:52 PM

These companies marketing departments need to read the room. The majority of their female customers are sick of this shit.

by Anonymousreply 144April 17, 2023 10:58 PM

[quote] Dylan Mulvaney is just fine, and she’s not the problem.

He is not a she snd is the problem.

by Anonymousreply 145April 17, 2023 11:25 PM

He's completely ruined "Breakfast at Tiffanys" for me.

by Anonymousreply 146April 18, 2023 1:44 AM

Dylan Mulvaney makes a MOCKERY of:

1. Women

2. Gay men

3. Actual people with gender dysphoria (the "old school" Ts) who just want to live their lives.

by Anonymousreply 147April 18, 2023 3:07 AM

Dylan is actually cuter than Oli.

by Anonymousreply 148April 18, 2023 3:09 AM

R148 That’s like saying a shit sandwich is better than a diarrhea burrito.

by Anonymousreply 149April 18, 2023 10:58 AM

R150 ANYTHING from PinkNews is automatically suspect. It’s all put through the trans-affirmation filter and there’s no room for anything else. If PinkNews was the only source for “queer” (not gay obviously) news we’d think that every woman who ever says women are women is the devil incarnate. Which is what they want of course.

by Anonymousreply 151April 18, 2023 11:55 AM

R147, no, Dylan Mulvaney doesn’t make a mockery of anyone. If you want to make a contribution to feminism then make a contribution to feminism. Tearing someone down who did not use hate speech means you’re using hate speech yourself.

by Anonymousreply 152April 18, 2023 12:01 PM

R152 Of course Dylan is making a mockery of women and the whole notion of what it is to be female. He’s a performative mannequin and there’s nothing genuine about him. His entire shtick is cynical and calculated. If it wasn’t he wouldn’t be accepting large amounts of money for endorsements. It’s all an act and a bad one at that.

by Anonymousreply 153April 18, 2023 12:06 PM

R151- sure, boyfriend killer peter theil

by Anonymousreply 154April 18, 2023 12:29 PM

If you want to fight for women’s rights, you fight for women’s rights- like access to jobs for people who are not in high demand sectors, better protection from harassment, and education that people are allowed to break gender norms. I used to be somewhat anti trans myself; part of the reason maybe is the sheer quantity of different types of messaging out there trying to convince people. But part of feminist messaging can be that it’s ok to break gender norms, that being a girl doesn’t have to mean you like makeup; Dylan Mulvaney can still exist in the world liking makeup if she wants to, and you might meet her in the grocery store or at work and say hi. She’s just another person. She doesn’t deserve hate speech.

by Anonymousreply 155April 18, 2023 1:05 PM

R155 You’re right, HE doesn’t. It’s not hate speech to point out he’s not a woman and never will be. He’s a man in female attire and make-up, good for him. It doesn’t make him an woman though.

by Anonymousreply 156April 18, 2023 1:25 PM

R155 and the problem with the current gender cult is that you have to like make up and dresses or you're not a girl . How do you think we got all those NBs ? If you listen to them , you'll almost never hear about them being dysphoric about their sexed bodies , it's all about how society treats women and how they 're not into dresses and make up and therefore failing womanhood . Very often you'll hear a version of "I don't want people to see me as a girl, I want to be a person " .

by Anonymousreply 157April 18, 2023 1:31 PM

Dylan isn't fun at all. Unhinged, the lot of these new Tik Tok stunt queens.

by Anonymousreply 158April 18, 2023 1:33 PM

R157, that’s why we need more feminist messaging that gender roles are biased. Trans identity when it exists should exist in the context of everybody saying that it’s ok for male or female to mean anything. You can be a female lesbian butch construction worker with short hair. Nothing is stopping feminists from promoting that message. If people still want to take hormones and transition even in the context of having complete freedom from stereotyping, then they must have other reasons for transitioning. But definitely as feminists we can work to remove gender stereotypes. We probably should be doing that- along with trying to get more and better job access, end harassment, improve low cost housing options etc. Many women not in relationships with men are economically poorly off and that could be a big push in feminism too, with a lot of other disenfranchised allies, including men.

by Anonymousreply 159April 18, 2023 1:38 PM

I can’t believe there’s another one now.

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by Anonymousreply 160April 18, 2023 1:44 PM

Also, if there were more feminist messaging that gender roles don’t have to mean anything, there’d be less nervousness about school officials being obliged to help identify potentially transgender children. If the child is distressed and the school has a good counselor they will feel free to talk about being distressed and why. But if part of the lesson plan is that gender roles are not inbuilt and inherent and stereotypes aren’t truths from on high, there will be zero basis for anyone saying something is wrong. The people who are still distressed at that point would be distressed in any case.

by Anonymousreply 163April 18, 2023 1:48 PM

Would you make fun of a femme male figure skater? Would you make fun of a heavyset woman without makeup? It’s just bullying. Most women were victims of it at some point in our lives. If you feel bullied on some particular policy point having to do with transition or gender, you can politely push back. That has nothing to do with bullying and hate speech against individuals.

by Anonymousreply 165April 18, 2023 2:28 PM

R159 R163 We had at some point got the message across that your sex doesn’t define gender roles. The 90s and into the 2000s were a great time of “just be you and love the skin you’re in”. Women could be masculine, men could be feminine and it didn’t define or undermine their sex. Then something changed and quite suddenly we’re where we are today with highly regressive, conservative messaging from the very people who proclaim themselves to be the progressives and “on the right side of history”.

by Anonymousreply 166April 18, 2023 2:33 PM

The medical community is making millions castrating and drugging children.

[quote] Why did Boston Children’s delete their video about gender-affirming hysterectomies?

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by Anonymousreply 167April 18, 2023 2:51 PM

That same children’s hospital had a video telling parents that children know they’re transgender in the womb and trying on girl clothes is a sign they’re trans.

by Anonymousreply 168April 18, 2023 2:52 PM

Gay men should want to sleep with this.

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by Anonymousreply 172April 18, 2023 2:58 PM

R166, even if that is the case, do you see how attacking individual people who are not using hate speech themselves works counter to feminism? Feminism is a movement for people who have been disempowered; every other group that has been disempowered- ethnic minorities, sexual minorities- has been attacked by the right wing with ad hominem attacks on individuals designed to provoke hate against groups. Even if there is some misogyny that exists on the left, could you agree that misogyny is not supposed to exist on the left, as a matter of principle? On the right there are no harassment or work protections; and traditionally women were subject to a lot of hidden abuse without social programs for life enhancement or protection- all of which the left endorses.

I don’t agree with all the current policies but I do think some questioning of gender stereotypes is being allowed. Aren’t women in STEM being promoted? It could be more, and what is there could be more publicly promoted to be sure. But attack speech helps who exactly? It’s going to lead to violence, not debate and discussion and negotiation.

by Anonymousreply 173April 18, 2023 3:09 PM

Even the stats that currently exist would definitely show STEM isn’t just for men - it’s 28 percent women. Even if men outnumber women it’s still way too many women to justify a stereotype like “women aren’t good at math.” The way you could talk about it is different. Many women are in fact good at math. 28 percent is a lot of people, not nothing…and not every woman has to be good at math. That’s the problem with stereotypes, is that they translate “the majority” into “all” even when the reality is much more diverse. But any policy or way of looking at things could have flaws like that. Say you’re generally trans critical- would you still think that transition might have some benefits at some times to some people? And vice versa.

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by Anonymousreply 174April 18, 2023 3:19 PM

[quote] Then something changed and quite suddenly we’re where we are today with highly regressive, conservative messaging from the very people who proclaim themselves to be the progressives and “on the right side of history”.

The Left is a cult now. Total group think. They’re the Moral Majority of the early 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 175April 18, 2023 4:27 PM

R175, the right has lobbies and financial interests too. Just because it’s difficult to fight financial interests doesn’t mean you should just give up and start harassing individual people. Chances are the news you perceive as true also has biases you aren’t aware of; there are layers to anything. But harassing some person online is not the equivalent of debate; it’s not debate at all actually. If you want to debate with real people, and you’re pro gender freedom and not homophobic, and understand dysphoria but think other issues should get attention too(like possibly inadvertently over-promoting stereotyping) then it’s time to do a go fund me or a blog or a website or a newspaper and get a movement going. I need to take my own advice too. There isn’t much available online on the feminist side that is critical without being homophobic, entirely anti trans to the point of not listening to dysphoric people, or right wing aligned hate speech designed to belittle and hurt someone. There certainly could be, because it used to be every main stream news source and feminist outlet was like that. And they changed their websites with the times; the old versions don’t exist. Which also doesn’t mean feminism traveled back to an ancient era of hating gay men. There’s a wrong impression online and there’s a way to correct it; that’s by not harassing people.

by Anonymousreply 176April 18, 2023 5:19 PM

R130 Only serial killers and televangelists smile like that.

by Anonymousreply 177April 18, 2023 5:41 PM

"Dylan Mulvaney doesn’t make a mockery of anyone. If you want to make a contribution to feminism then make a contribution to feminism. Tearing someone down who did not use hate speech..."

If ANYONE on the Right called vaginas "Barbie pockets" it would IMMEDIATELY be called "hate speech" by the very same people who claim Dylan Mulvaney "isn't hurting anyone".

by Anonymousreply 178April 18, 2023 5:59 PM

R178, but Dylan Mulvaney, in actual fact, ISN’T hurting anyone. If you want to write about policies or slogans or stereotypes that’s different, but there are plenty of people who actually threaten and use hate speech and want to use slurs against people and Dylan is one of them. If you make an innocent person your victim, it’s you that looks bad. Take the time to write out your thoughts on policies without attacking people, and someone might listen to you.

by Anonymousreply 179April 18, 2023 11:04 PM

The link below is educational material on fighting gender stereotypes in the UK. I don’t know if the US is providing material like this? If anyone here knows for sure and can confirm, it would be helpful. If instruction like this is going on in US schools, it would counter the narrative that people transition based partly on stereotypes being emphasized too much. If something like this was regularly in news media, it would also counter that narrative. Thoughts?

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by Anonymousreply 180April 18, 2023 11:21 PM

Dylan is not innocent. He made a calculated decision to pretend to be a mincing little girl for fame and money. Before he landed on 'Days of being a girl' he tried out "It's a they!" but it didn't catch on. He gives credence to the homophobic idea that gay men are just women trapped in men's bodies, which is what they believe in Iran, by the way.

by Anonymousreply 181April 18, 2023 11:24 PM

R181, but if it’s the idea you disagree with, the ethical approach is to write about the idea, not about a person. Somewhere there is bound to be a religious conservative who disagrees with both of us; but I wouldn’t want to have my personal life singled out on the internet in place of that person’s own essay or newspaper or whatever declaration they have of what they believe.

If you want a source for facts that support your stance , the link below is the best one I know of on the internet. But even that, I don’t know who made the site or what bias there could be.

One thing I will say, I’m not aware of any study showing that people with a non-trans gender non conforming identity are unhappy compared to people who adopted a trans identity. So from that perspective, I think identifying potentially trans kids in school is problematic if staff go too much above and beyond in thinking that trans identity is better or that stereotypes are truth. And I have seen some of that in real life, where I think people don’t see the nuance in that, that many people are very happy being gender non-conforming and not trans. The studies only show that people who actively wanted to transition and then transitioned are happier within whatever limits of the study. Not that people who were converted or convinced about transition against objections and doubts would be happier. I think it’s an ambiguous subject, like most things in psychology…

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by Anonymousreply 182April 18, 2023 11:47 PM

When someone commits an act of vandalism, the idea of vandalism isn't arrested, the person is. There is no transgenderism without people. You can't talk about transgenderism without mentioning the people who claim a transgender identity. If the more well-known transgendered people happen to be craven opportunists then that's who's going to get talked about.

by Anonymousreply 183April 19, 2023 12:06 AM

R183, an attack on a person isn’t a debate, it’s an attack. It’s an infliction of pain on a person, and it indicates that the person doing it takes pleasure in another person’s pain, which makes the ethics of the person who did it questionable to whoever sees it. Also, anyone can attack someone else. People don’t have to use modulated language, respect and logic in attacks. You can as easily be a victim of an attack as a perpetrator of one, and that is true of everyone.

If you actually want people to listen to you in the real world and believe you are saying anything meaningful, you will stop your attack strategy. Hitting someone with a stick makes people dislike you, and your argument is against yourself; which is a shame when there really is a point to look at here.

by Anonymousreply 184April 19, 2023 12:21 AM

R184 We get it, you can boo fucking hoo all you like but Dylan is fair game. HE put himself out there, HE'S the one taking endorsement checks, HE should be able to be challenged on basic things seeing as his whole "thing" is his "trans" identity, without which he has NOTHING and nothing to offer the world.

by Anonymousreply 185April 19, 2023 12:40 AM

No trans should be fair game, Nazi. You TERF cunts should worship the ground transwomen walk on.

by Anonymousreply 186April 19, 2023 12:51 AM

[quote]no, Dylan Mulvaney doesn’t make a mockery of anyone

Mulvaney says he's a girl. I'm gonna believe my eyes and ears who see a prancing gay man and hear a shrieking queen.

by Anonymousreply 187April 19, 2023 12:54 AM

[quote] Mulvaney says he's a girl. I'm gonna believe my eyes and ears who see a prancing gay man and hear a shrieking queen.

Well, you need to get your cis eyes checked because the rest of the sane world sees a beautiful girl dancing and singing and expressing her joy. Who are you to dampen that joy? Only Nazis do that.

by Anonymousreply 189April 19, 2023 1:08 AM

Can a tampon endorsement be far behind?

by Anonymousreply 191April 19, 2023 1:48 AM

R191 - he/she has claimed to be having heavy periods, right?

by Anonymousreply 192April 19, 2023 4:43 AM

Jesus christ. Should I feel guilty for feeling like.... "GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!" Gay or Straight-- WE'VE ALL HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT, YOU PHONEY BITCH!!! YOU'VE VENTURED INTO OVERKILL!!! WE'RE ALL SO SICK OF YOU, IT'S NO WONDER....

....You're why they hate us.

by Anonymousreply 193April 19, 2023 5:35 AM

"Can a tampon endorsement be far INTO HIS behind?"

by Anonymousreply 194April 19, 2023 6:53 AM

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